#26 26.05.2012 18:12:32

IllvilJa
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Posts: 51

Re: And the winner is....

The proposed list of winners is fine for me.

Monamipierrot, my assumption is that our score is decreased as we are not formal winners.  Personally, I don't have any problem with that, as I really don't care about ranking. I have fullfilled those success criterias I setup for myself at the start of the game, but those success criterias are a bit different from 'increase my ranking at any cost' :-).

(And no, I won't disclose what those criterias are... ;-) )

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#27 26.05.2012 18:54:57

munk
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Re: And the winner is....

monamipierrot wrote:

how does the score-ranking works? What happens to non-winners?

if I read this correctly:
http://longturn.org/ranking/

then:

1) new players to longturn.org start with 1000 points.
2) all losers of LT30 lose 15% of their current points. Ex: Adsynth loses 150 points from 1000, Terror loses 504 of 3358.
3) the sum of those points lost by the losers is divided among the 10 winners, each getting an equal share, and assuming the list proposed is accepted.

also, those who have not played more than this game will not show on the rankings. Bogus. tongue

Last edited by munk (26.05.2012 18:55:52)

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#28 26.05.2012 19:02:07

monamipierrot
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Re: And the winner is....

How is determined (by the game) the score of a RIP player? Why isn't it zero?

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#29 26.05.2012 20:38:47

Kryon
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Posts: 331

Re: And the winner is....

monamipierrot wrote:

how does the score-ranking works? What happens to non-winners?

According to current rules, the non-winners will lose 12.5% of their rank score and winners will share the those points among themselves. You can check the detailed description at http://longturn.org/ranking/

Marduk had proposed a 3rd category (winners, losers, neutral). Neutrals are players who survive till the end but who do not claim victory. They will  not lose or earn any points. However I think if we decide to implement this, it should be announced before the game starts. Thus, for LT30 we should have only winners and losers.

Last edited by Kryon (26.05.2012 20:56:18)

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#30 27.05.2012 08:03:37

akfaew
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Re: And the winner is....

Is the game over? Have all players not on the list surrendered? If not you have to kill them, and then we end the game.

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#31 27.05.2012 09:36:05

friddelprimpf
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Re: And the winner is....

As ruler of the small and peaceful Venezuelan nation I didn't really influence the game. Any aggressor would have only little trouble to RIP me, so there is no cause to set me on the winner list. As a surviving nation not mentioned on the on the winnerlist I agree for myself with end the game and declaring the following winners: aloril, wieder, cgalik, munk, duncan_shriek, jhh, ollikka, kevin551, modeemirotta, elrik.
I suppose, that I am not the last non-winner agree with the winner list, as the (not) belonging to the winnerlist is not always as cleary as in my case.

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#32 27.05.2012 14:48:04

akfaew
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Re: And the winner is....

How did jhh get on that list, last time I remember he had no more than 1 city.

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#33 27.05.2012 15:37:17

IllvilJa
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Re: And the winner is....

Jhh got on the list because he is still alive and we survivors agreed to have him among the winners.

Hope the explanation was clear enough.

Best regards

/IllvilJa

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#34 28.05.2012 09:14:29

wieder
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Re: And the winner is....

There is actually some very valid points in having jhh on the list of winners. First, he is alive. Second is that England played a big role in uniting the world against our enemies. He was one of the players that was winning the war on the game chat. Yeah, really winning it on the chat. Thats has happened before.

The third point? It's the winners who write the history big_smile

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#35 28.05.2012 17:10:27

soon
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Re: And the winner is....

The proposed list of winners is fine for me.

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#36 28.05.2012 17:10:35

Lord_P
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Posts: 127

Re: And the winner is....

"7 from TNS (aloril, wieder, cgalik, munk, duncan_shriek, jhh, ollikka), 2 from SB (kevin551, modeemirotta) and 1 from NA (elrik)"

I have no problems with this choice. Good to see Elrik made the winners list, learned a lot from him this game.

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#37 28.05.2012 18:03:56

jhh
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Re: And the winner is....

akfaew wrote:

How did jhh get on that list, last time I remember he had no more than 1 city.

I've had more than 1 city a long long time and I reconquered some cities back in the end.

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#38 29.05.2012 02:02:53

kevin551
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Posts: 285

Re: And the winner is....

wieder wrote:

It's the winners who write the history big_smile

TNS won this game. I accept their victory. I accept their winner's list. My version of history is different. But so what.

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#39 30.05.2012 03:25:29

Robodave
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Re: And the winner is....

I support this winner list.

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#40 30.05.2012 08:31:47

Zero
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Re: And the winner is....

Ok with the winner's list, long live the winners !

For info regarding the ranking, my previous account was «Pytoux». Zero seemed appropriate to start anew.

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#41 02.06.2012 10:51:28

Steelski
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Re: And the winner is....

I was asked whether I accept the list of winners, in case there is some confusion about my permanent delegation to paveq and then to jhh. And yeah, of course I do. Congrats to the winners. smile

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#42 02.06.2012 12:44:49

Fomka
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Re: And the winner is....

I accept the winner list

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#43 02.06.2012 12:52:40

paveq
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Re: And the winner is....

I don't care about winners list, as I have already surrendered. Just STOP bothering me with it.

My two cents.

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#44 02.06.2012 13:13:11

Aloril
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Re: And the winner is....

1 player remains who is not on winners list and and has not accepted it or surrendered: monamipierrot

monamipierrot: You need to either 1) get yourself to winners list by getting somebody agreeing to swap place with you or 2) post acceptance of list here or 3) surrender game on forum. Sunday 18:00 GMT is deadline for any of these things to happen.

At Sunday 19:00 GMT you will get your biggest war in game if none of those has happened. You can of course declare war any point before that time and attack yourself first tongue Of course if you do that, then war starts right then, no need to wait for deadline in that case.

In game terms this is quite early at T156 so if you want war, then you have 2 TC's to prepare for it, you can have any tech you want, just ask.

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#45 02.06.2012 14:55:30

johnhx
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Re: And the winner is....

Is it too late to sign on with some sort of guest account? I'd like to see this! lol

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#46 03.06.2012 20:06:02

monamipierrot
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Posts: 171

Re: And the winner is....

I didn't surrender and something interesting happened here in LT30 some minutes ago.
If you didn't see the action, here's a vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfiNVTPq … be&t=1m47s

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#47 03.06.2012 20:28:39

Aloril
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Re: And the winner is....

Thanks monamipierrot for fun battle, you conquered some cities during it and it took quite amount longer than I thought it would take.

akfaew, marduk: now everybody alive is either 1) on winning list,  2) accepted it  or  3) surrendered

Are you OK with this and we can end game?

There are 2 options for ending I think?:
1) Everybody allies, game ends automatically next TC
2) Another voting round to get agreement on ending turn

I think option 1 is fastest if everybody who is needed to make alliances logs in the game and makes needed diplomatic proposals.

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#48 04.06.2012 03:20:27

Kryon
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Posts: 331

Re: And the winner is....

Since there are too many players in LT30, I can not manually enter the names, so I need Akfaew to send me the list of players in LT30. Once I get the list, I can run my script to calculate the new rankings.

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#49 11.06.2012 13:23:48

kevin551
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Posts: 285

Re: And the winner is....

LT30 is now fully over.
Thanks for the game.
The final game scores are here https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7mfM2P … d3azg/edit

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#50 11.06.2012 20:48:28

Marduk
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From: Rotterdam, Netherlands
Posts: 145

Re: And the winner is....

Ok, yea so game over!

Congrats to the winners! But please try to win without scripting next time.

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